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Post by cjm on Aug 28, 2017 14:36:21 GMT
A few more unedifying statements from the link.
I am not sure that the polarisation (if it is worse) is deliberate: Polarisation is perhaps inevitable, but is it really desired or cultivated for its own sake? Trump, at least, has gone out of his way to smooth things over and to be a president for all Americans. Thunderous support from the vast majority would be music to his ears. Nobody seems to hear him.
I fail to see anything either immoral or controversial about the ban.
Perhaps Bannon was fired, but to present it as a fact, is stretching things, as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Trog on Oct 14, 2017 15:31:03 GMT
Bannon's WarI posted this on a Breitbart item: I only got one fairly nondescript reply. Sadly, I suspect most of the Breitbart posters aren't too bright. I also suspect a communication gap - I think my comments don't translate too well into Americanese, and are often misunderstood. But anyway, I think it is very feasible that Bannon's efforts could result in the Senate resorting back to the Democrats, (I'm very sure that Bannon himself is totally aware of the fact) and I'm trying to work out how that is going to help Bannon. Maybe in 2 ways: 1. Perhaps Trump is going to push a lot of his stuff very quickly, very early next year. Due to Bannon's efforts, the GOP senators are going to think very carefully and very deeply about how they are going to respond to that. They can be assured that if they cross Trump, it will echo all over the US. 2. I think that maybe Bannon is willing to hand over the Senate to the Democrats. America is in a mess, and in truth, during a mess it is much better to NOT be in charge. Whatever the Democrats do is guaranteed to piss the voters off even more, which is going add huge impetus to the Bannon movement. I also suspect that Bannon will not be averse to Trump being impeached, and not making it to the next presidential election. I think he has Trump's successor already lined up - Ted Cruz. (Although as a South African I can't imagine why - when I look at the man, I can't escape the feeling that actually he should be in jail).
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Post by cjm on Oct 15, 2017 9:36:32 GMT
Bannon's War... But anyway, I think it is very feasible that Bannon's efforts could result in the Senate resorting back to the Democrats, (I'm very sure that Bannon himself is totally aware of the fact) and I'm trying to work out how that is going to help Bannon. Maybe in 2 ways: 1. Perhaps Trump is going to push a lot of his stuff very quickly, very early next year. Due to Bannon's efforts, the GOP senators are going to think very carefully and very deeply about how they are going to respond to that. They can be assured that if they cross Trump, it will echo all over the US. 2. I think that maybe Bannon is willing to hand over the Senate to the Democrats. America is in a mess, and in truth, during a mess it is much better to NOT be in charge. Whatever the Democrats do is guaranteed to piss the voters off even more, which is going add huge impetus to the Bannon movement. I also suspect that Bannon will not be averse to Trump being impeached, and not making it to the next presidential election. I think he has Trump's successor already lined up - Ted Cruz. (Although as a South African I can't imagine why - when I look at the man, I can't escape the feeling that actually he should be in jail). As it is, Trump's Presidency was created by barely half of Americans. Perhaps a great enough disaster will propel more support in his direction, but I am not optimistic. He (or whoever succeeds him), will have to appeal to a greater subsection of voters to drive through changes. I suspect that Trump has been trying to do that with some of his watered down policies. I don't think that Ivanka's help in this regard should be underestimated. His base will not desert him easily even with some watered down policies (I think). Massive economic success will perhaps help getting more support behind him. With or without Trump the problem is building a base greater than 50%. As it is I would rather stick with Trump if I were Bannon and in fact that seems what he is doing. Bannon Squashes ‘Trump Has 30% Chance of Completing Term’ Fake News — Predicts Massive 2020 Victory
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Post by Trog on Nov 2, 2017 11:22:02 GMT
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Post by Trog on Nov 3, 2017 5:42:30 GMT
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Post by cjm on Nov 3, 2017 6:12:57 GMT
Kushner is referred to as an adviser in some reports. I always thought that an adviser is someone of advanced age, who mumbles unintelligibly, peers from underneath a furrowed brow and at least has some previous credentials hinting at great wisdom and insight. Perhaps Jared knows how to make money (is there a Jew who does not?), but there it ends. What hold can he possibly have on Trump? Why would Trump think that he knows more than Trump himself?
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Post by cjm on Nov 3, 2017 6:56:23 GMT
Cannot be too serious as he is keeping it in the family?
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Post by Trog on Nov 3, 2017 7:17:23 GMT
Cannot be too serious as he is keeping it in the family? The way I understand it, Mercer's political spending goes through the Mercer Family Foundation, which is controlled by Rebekah anyway.
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Post by Trog on Nov 3, 2017 7:30:26 GMT
Kushner is referred to as an adviser in some reports. I always thought that an adviser is someone of advanced age, who mumbles unintelligibly, peers from underneath a furrowed brow and at least has some previous credentials hinting at great wisdom and insight. Perhaps Jared knows how to make money (is there a Jew who does not?), but there it ends. What hold can he possibly have on Trump? Why would Trump think that he knows more than Trump himself? I suspect that there is/was some attempt by both Trump and Kushner to groom him as a future POTUS.
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Post by cjm on Nov 3, 2017 9:33:01 GMT
I suspect that there is/was some attempt by both Trump and Kushner to groom him as a future POTUS. Still, to blame him for bad advice, seems nonsensical. Unless Trump is using him as a scapecoat for his own errors.
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Post by Trog on Nov 4, 2017 10:50:13 GMT
The way I understand it, Mercer's political spending goes through the Mercer Family Foundation, which is controlled by Rebekah anyway. Mercer Steps Back From RenTech, Not PoliticsI reckon Breitbart is okay. But if I was Bannon, I'd actively seek alternative streams of revenue - which shouldn't be too difficult, I'm sure.
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Post by cjm on Nov 4, 2017 18:29:43 GMT
But if I was Bannon, I'd actively seek alternative streams of revenue - which shouldn't be too difficult, I'm sure. Looking at the number of adverts they carry, I wonder whether they are not selfsupporting.
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Post by Trog on Nov 12, 2017 7:32:51 GMT
The Guardian:
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Post by cjm on Nov 13, 2017 14:15:28 GMT
The opposition would have been better off, keeping him in the WH. He is formidable where he is now.
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Post by Trog on Dec 13, 2017 6:18:51 GMT
Bannon's WarI posted this on a Breitbart item: I only got one fairly nondescript reply. Sadly, I suspect most of the Breitbart posters aren't too bright. I also suspect a communication gap - I think my comments don't translate too well into Americanese, and are often misunderstood. But anyway, I think it is very feasible that Bannon's efforts could result in the Senate resorting back to the Democrats, (I'm very sure that Bannon himself is totally aware of the fact) and I'm trying to work out how that is going to help Bannon. Maybe in 2 ways: 1. Perhaps Trump is going to push a lot of his stuff very quickly, very early next year. Due to Bannon's efforts, the GOP senators are going to think very carefully and very deeply about how they are going to respond to that. They can be assured that if they cross Trump, it will echo all over the US. 2. I think that maybe Bannon is willing to hand over the Senate to the Democrats. America is in a mess, and in truth, during a mess it is much better to NOT be in charge. Whatever the Democrats do is guaranteed to piss the voters off even more, which is going add huge impetus to the Bannon movement. I also suspect that Bannon will not be averse to Trump being impeached, and not making it to the next presidential election. I think he has Trump's successor already lined up - Ted Cruz. (Although as a South African I can't imagine why - when I look at the man, I can't escape the feeling that actually he should be in jail). Alabama Election Results: Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in U.S. Senate RaceThis is hardly unexpected. I reckon it's not a surprise for Bannon either. So again, what does he get out of it? Maybe he just went for the big win, having decided that losing isn't bad either - he effectively obliterated what must've been a forgone conclusion for the Republicans.
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